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cigarettes From York Press as an ex smoker I do sympathise with those trying to quit but don't forget that it is as much the habit of holding something between your fingers and putting it into your mouth as the addiction to the nicotine which has to be conquered. Just watch people on TV who are holding a pen or pencil you can spot the smokers a mile off just by the way they roll it between their fingers!!!!!!!as an ex smoker I do sympathise with those trying to quit but don't forget that it is as much the habit of holding something between your fingers and putting it into your mouth as the addiction to the nicotine which has to be conquered. Just watch people on TV who are holding a pen or pencil you can spot the smokers a mile off just by the way they roll it between their fingers!!!!!!! The justification for the 20mg/ml limit is seriously flawed. This level will not deliver nicotine at the levels that many smokers require and considerably less that a cigarette. Fine for moderate to light smokers, but for 40% of ecig users and those that are heavier smokers (the people who would benefit most of all) this limit amounts to a ban by rendering the devices as useless. In order to deliver nicotine at the same level as smoking, it is estimated that the concentration required is 45mg/ml so any limit below this level is unjustifiable. The whole process from start to finish has been a stitch up, putting pharmaceutical industry profits over an about the healh, choices and even lives of e cig users and smokers (who may later switch to an ecig) This isn't a victory for democracy it is designed to limit the availability and effectiveness of e cigs e cigs are a way out of smoking and the politicians have tried their best to suppress it. to their eternal shame. The justification for the 20mg/ml limit is seriously flawed. This level will not deliver nicotine at the levels that many smokers require and considerably less that a cigarette. Fine for moderate to light smokers, but for 40% of ecig users and those that are heavier smokers (the people who would benefit most of all) this limit amounts to a ban by rendering the devices as useless. In order to deliver nicotine at the same level as smoking, it is estimated that the concentration required is 45mg/ml so any limit below this level is unjustifiable. The whole process from start to finish has been a stitch up, putting pharmaceutical industry profits over an about the healh, choices and even lives of e cig users and smokers (who may later switch to an ecig) This isn't a victory for democracy it is designed to limit the availability and effectiveness of e cigs e cigs are a way out of smoking and the politicians have tried their best to suppress it. This level will not deliver nicotine at the levels that many smokers require and considerably less that a cigarette. Fine for moderate to light smokers, but for 40% of ecig users and those that are heavier smokers (the people who would benefit most of all) this limit amounts to a ban by rendering the devices as useless. In order to deliver nicotine at the same level as smoking, it is estimated that the concentration required is 45mg/ml so any limit below this level is unjustifiable. The whole process from start to finish has been a stitch up, putting pharmaceutical industry profits over an about the healh, choices and even lives of e cig users and smokers (who may later switch to an ecig) This isn't a victory for democracy it is designed to limit the availability and effectiveness of e cigs e cigs are a way out of smoking and the politicians have tried their best to suppress it. to their eternal shame. you have to know that vapers aren't ok with this TPD ! there are a lot of obligation as hard as for phamaceutical and tobacco products for the industry of ecigs. Parliament says NO to medicalize the ecig, but in the TPD, countries who want to medicalize them can do it. Parliament says NO to medicalize the ecig, but in the TPD, countries who want to medicalize them can do it. Nothing good in this, sorry . Chris , first of all may I thank you Rebecca Taylor and Frederique Ries from ALDE MEP especially and the Conservative MEP headed by Martin Callanan for your great support and fighting efforts over the last few months . The agreed proposals though contain far more than just a 20mg/ml limit and really once you have had a long considered look at them I think you may come to the same conclusion as me Removal of all Reference to e cigs from the TPD . The proposals were hastily cobbled together in an attempt to get a compromise agreement , there are unintended consequences aplenty and I consider the whole document as totally unfit for purpose . With such an important topic as this that is having massive Public Health repercussions it really needs a far more considered approach with carefully tailored regulations drafted after a proper consultation process which involved vapers,doctors,scien
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